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    L319

    As a new project to occupy my time, I am on the verge to buy a Mercedes panel L319 1958 and I checked on websites to see if parts are available. SLS and Niemoeller in Germany do not carry these kind of parts. Is there a place somewhere to get them. eBay is poor about them.
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    Re: L319

    Andre ... That looks like a great project. The Daimler web site mentioned that the L319 shared much of its drive train with passenger vehicles so the mechanicals should be OK. As of the rest, get the complete van in restorable condition.
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    Re: L319

    The L319 gets a small Diesel engine of 43 HP which is not adequate to me. Having a spare 200 engine freshly overhauled, I thought to install this engine into her in order to be able to cruise at more than 50 mph.
    But voilà, my garage door and ceiling is not having the clearance to lodge a L319.
    Will think about another project!
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    Re: L319

    I had to drive a 319 a few years ago. Very, very underpowered for our hills. How about a 6.3 conversion? We may be able to find an engine.
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    Re: L319

    V8 is too big to enter between the seats. The 200 engine having torque along with 110 HP will be sufficient.
    I decided to raise my garage door and ceiling from 7'6" to 9' on a width of 10'6" in the center. The trusses' profile will be a raised tie type. I always found the ceiling too low, it is time to lift it, buying a L319 or not, and a 2 post lift will be possible.
    Carpentry project is as good as a mechanical one, at least modifications are durable.
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    Re: L319

    Andre': You probably would want that 6.3 pushed back of the seats for weight distribution. That would be awesome.
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    Re: L319

    The L 319 seller supplies also 2 other diesels with her. I would preferred to install another one over the rear wheels and make a 4x4 with the truck. Weight distribution will be perfect!
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    Re: L319

    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Hudon View Post
    V8 is too big to enter between the seats. The 200 engine having torque along with 110 HP will be sufficient.
    I decided to raise my garage door and ceiling from 7'6" to 9' on a width of 10'6" in the center. The trusses' profile will be a raised tie type. I always found the ceiling too low, it is time to lift it, buying a L319 or not, and a 2 post lift will be possible.
    Carpentry project is as good as a mechanical one, at least modifications are durable.
    After several days of work, I completed the ceiling lift, having now 9'2" under the center bay. The door actuator followed, but the door is still at the same height. Last thing to do if I buy a L319 to restore.
    This is what we call " enlarge from the inside"
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    Re: L319

    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Hudon View Post
    The L319 gets a small Diesel engine of 43 HP which is not adequate to me. Having a spare 200 engine freshly overhauled, I thought to install this engine into her in order to be able to cruise at more than 50 mph.
    But voilà, my garage door and ceiling is not having the clearance to lodge a L319.
    Will think about another project!
    I inspected the L319 today to find that the front suspension is a rigid bridge with leaf springs. This kind of suspension is very uncomfortable and difficult to handle on rough road. The maximum speed of these trucks is 55 mph staying secured. I want to increase power and speed, I do not think it will be wise to do on this kind of suspension.
    This the lien to these trucks for sale.
    http://www.kijiji.ca/v-voiture-colle...ationFlag=true
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    Re: L319

    Question coming from the seller: is a 121 940 engine might be connected to the original bell and transmission without major modifications?
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    Re: L319

    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Hudon View Post
    I inspected the L319 today to find that the front suspension is a rigid bridge with leaf springs. This kind of suspension is very uncomfortable and difficult to handle on rough road. The maximum speed of these trucks is 55 mph staying secured. I want to increase power and speed, I do not think it will be wise to do on this kind of suspension.
    This the lien to these trucks for sale.
    http://www.kijiji.ca/v-voiture-colle...ationFlag=true

    I'd have been more worried about the rust then the front suspension design! I think passing was a wise move.
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    Re: L319

    Quote Originally Posted by mb230s View Post
    I think passing was a wise move.
    From my experience the MB-L319 is a great project and one of the best toys in my collection. My L319 is now in Germany with a vintage racing team carrying special MB´s to some circuits with it´s original gasoline and little engine.
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    Re: L319

    I wasn't knocking the L319....I was knocking extremely rusty L319s.
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    Re: L319

    Hi Ricardo,
    Were you able to start with a L319 with a flatbed body or did you add that to a more conventional body?
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    Re: L319

    Hi Dave,
    I started with a cargo truck and built the flatbed hauler from there. Here some photos of the before!
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