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    Re: Webers or Solex

    Gary ... It will probably be a couple of months. Walt is refining the design and preparing final drawings; Ellis will then have them machined in Cleveland.
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    Re: Webers or Solex

    Jim,

    thanks if you want to 3d print one to Walt's file before machining let me know.
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    Re: Webers or Solex

    Good question!

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    Re: Webers or Solex

    Jim,
    I am doing the Weber conversion and see that the thing I miss from the kit I have is a longer support rod. As the Webers are longer and moves the air log further out, the support rod seems to be even more important. A Weber specific support tube would be a great product together with those adapter plates.
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    Re: Webers or Solex

    Lief .... The Weber and Solex carbs are almost exactly the same length. The new adapter plate will have a hole for the support rod so the the original support rod will support the adapter plate and fit perfectly (the attaching bolt will need to be a little longer to go through both the adapter plate and the air log).
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    Re: Webers or Solex

    Then I will have to look over my setup once more ��
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    Re: Webers or Solex

    Gerry,

    A couple of thoughts slipped through my mind reading this thread: Wouldn't it be possible to manufacture these sync-adapters on a 3D printer? I think they would make a great addition to the adapter plates and would make the synchronizing process very easy. I left mine in permanently, plugged with a heat resistant rubber cap. (I don't remember what size they are - M5 or M6, but they are 32mm long)

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    If one don't want to wait but these plates can be made quite easily. Mine have the 'connecting channel' drilled from above and afterwards welded to cap the upper part (where aluminium welding is not available the holes can be simply closed with one of these headless set screws). I decided to go this route because I was able to use the stock DCOE air cleaner gaskets.
    To make the set up even more correct - DCOE intake manifolds (with individual ports) are available.
    Linkage - as one might remember the Solex-linkage is not the best solution for the DCOE's. The last pictures show my setup (attached to the 1st and 3rd intake port only) following the Weber's mounting geometry.

    Last point to make the DCOEs fit perfectly to the 190SL engine - I would love to have four AFR sensors instead of just one. But that would require huge improvements on the exhaust system which I haven't gotten into (yet :-)... ).

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    Re: Webers or Solex

    Ben,

    Unfortunately sync ports on the adapter plates would be too far from the throttle plates to be accurate.

    Walt

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    Re: Webers or Solex

    Walt,

    That is totaly correct, I apologize for my misleading words. The sync ports are located next the the idle mixture screw, basically where the vacuum occurs. I was just thinking out loud - selling this sync ports or sync adapters together with the air filter adapter plates as a set would make a nice package. Made on a 3D printer would probably make them quite affordable.


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    Ah, I now see how the comment was intended. English can be a bear.

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    Re: Webers or Solex

    I ended up doing the same thing, wow, that was over a year ago. These projects take time.
    Quote Originally Posted by walazos View Post
    I have webers on my car with the original intake manifold and i mounted the air log with adapter plates that are available from multiple sources. It's a very clean look.
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    Re: Webers or Solex

    Quote Originally Posted by Simonrex View Post
    I ended up doing the same thing, wow, that was over a year ago. These projects take time.
    Where can one purchase the fuel line connectors that are mounted on the carbs
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    Re: Webers or Solex

    Hi all!!
    I didn't mount the rubber flanges between the intake manifold and the carburettors.
    When I get to mount the air log on the carbuettors I have very little space between it and the heating air duct as the adapter plate takes 10 mm thickness.
    Can you mount it easily with rubber seals?
    How much space do you have to get it through?
    Thanks!!
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